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由清華大學和國務院發展研究中心共同主辦的“清華創新論壇”於2011年4月19日在清華科技園舉行。上圖為阿裏巴巴董事局主席馬雲。(圖片來源:新浪財經 梁斌 攝)
新浪科技訊 4月20日ri上shang午wu消xiao息xi,阿e裏li巴ba巴ba董dong事shi局ju主zhu席xi馬ma雲yun昨zuo日ri在zai出chu席xi清qing華hua創chuang新xin論lun壇tan時shi表biao示shi,企qi業ye創chuang新xin不bu是shi為wei打da敗bai對dui手shou,而er是shi跟gen明ming天tian競jing爭zheng。談tan及ji衛wei哲zhe離li職zhi一yi事shi,馬ma雲yun說shuo他ta隻zhi是shi承cheng擔dan應ying有you的de責ze任ren,並bing不bu存cun在zai利li益yi分fen配pei、內部鬥爭等複雜原因。
“我不相信有一流的人才,我隻相信有一流的努力”,馬雲在清華創新論壇上表示,知識是可以灌輸的,但是智慧是啟迪的、喚醒的,這也是教育上麵臨的巨大創新挑戰。清華創新論壇由清華大學和國務院發展研究中心共同主辦。
對於企業創新,馬雲認為創新不是要打敗對手、不是為更大的名,而是為了社會、客戶、明天。“創新不是為對手競爭,而是跟明天競爭”,馬雲說,真正的創新一定是基於使命感,這樣才能持久的進行。
上述話題延伸到企業內部,馬雲再次強調了阿裏阿巴巴的價值觀,即做自己的原則。他表示“在這個原則基礎上什麼事情都可以談,在這個原則之外什麼事情都不能談”。
談及衛哲的離職時馬雲說,這隻是衛哲承擔應負的責任,“並沒有網上傳的利益分配,內部鬥爭,哪有那麼複雜”。他還進一步強調,誠信不是阿裏巴巴的價值觀,而是“人類共同擁有的價值觀,誰違背誰承擔責任”。
此外,馬雲還借給兒子18歲寫的一封信,闡釋了他理解的人才觀。首先是擁有獨立判斷,其次是保持樂觀,第三是講真話。“這三個基本要求誰都能做到”,馬雲也補充說,“人才他一定有點怪異,所以領導要包容”。(舒石)
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我wo今jin天tian講jiang一yi些xie我wo自zi己ji的de觀guan點dian,我wo坐zuo在zai下xia麵mian我wo在zai思si考kao我wo要yao講jiang什shen麼me,因yin為wei每mei次ci講jiang我wo都dou是shi臨lin時shi想xiang的de,我wo真zhen實shi的de想xiang法fa,創chuang新xin無wu模mo式shi,創chuang新xin就jiu是shi你ni的de感gan觸chu,你ni對dui問wen題ti的de看kan法fa。我wo想xiang表biao達da一yi下xia我wo對dui創chuang新xin的de看kan法fa,未wei必bi對dui,隻zhi是shi分fen享xiang給gei大da家jia。我wo自zi己ji在zai想xiang為wei什shen麼me沒mei考kao進jin清qing華hua?小xiao學xue我wo念nian了le七qi年nian,中zhong學xue念nian了le三san年nian,高gao考kao考kao了le三san次ci,一yi直zhi以yi來lai從cong來lai沒mei有you被bei認ren為wei好hao學xue生sheng,但dan也ye沒mei變bian成cheng一yi個ge壞huai學xue生sheng。小xiao學xue我wo是shi最zui好hao的de小xiao學xue生sheng之zhi一yi,我wo們men去qu參can加jia考kao試shi全quan軍jun覆fu沒mei,後hou來lai實shi在zai沒mei有you中zhong學xue要yao我wo們men,就jiu把ba我wo們men改gai杭hang州zhou天tian水shui中zhong學xue。在zai杭hang州zhou曆li史shi上shang隻zhi有you一yi所suo小xiao學xue改gai中zhong學xue的de,我wo有you時shi候hou看kan見jian北bei大da清qing華hua哈ha佛fo這zhe些xie畢bi業ye生sheng出chu於yu嫉ji妒du心xin理li,我wo經jing常chang諷feng刺ci多duo一yi點dian。我wo認ren為wei我wo考kao進jin的de杭hang州zhou師shi範fan學xue院yuan是shi最zui好hao的de學xue校xiao。
我wo特te別bie喜xi歡huan這zhe兩liang個ge字zi,啟qi迪di,現xian在zai的de教jiao學xue我wo覺jiao得de灌guan輸shu的de知zhi識shi,剛gang才cai委wei員yuan長chang講jiang,知zhi識shi已yi經jing是shi爆bao炸zha時shi代dai,我wo分fen析xi為wei什shen麼me我wo考kao試shi考kao不bu好hao,老lao師shi講jiang的de東dong西xi我wo永yong遠yuan記ji不bu住zhu,優you秀xiu的de學xue生sheng是shi老lao師shi講jiang的de他ta記ji得de很hen清qing楚chu,我wo覺jiao得de啟qi迪di這zhe兩liang個ge字zi,我wo認ren為wei知zhi識shi是shi可ke以yi灌guan輸shu的de,但dan是shi人ren類lei的de智zhi慧hui是shi啟qi迪di的de,是shi喚huan醒xing的de。我wo們men進jin入ru二er十shi一yi世shi紀ji,在zai知zhi識shi爆bao炸zha的de時shi候hou,我wo們men重zhong要yao的de不bu是shi獲huo取qu更geng多duo的de知zhi識shi,以yi前qian時shi代dai你ni可ke能neng需xu要yao大da量liang的de記ji憶yi,我wo以yi前qian那na些xie同tong學xue我wo太tai佩pei服fu了le,中zhong國guo人ren的de文wen化hua說shuo勤qin勞lao勇yong敢gan,勤qin勞lao是shi很hen重zhong要yao,機ji器qi是shi永yong遠yuan不bu會hui偷tou懶lan的de,人ren和he機ji器qi最zui大da的de差cha別bie,我wo們men懂dong得de創chuang新xin。我wo覺jiao得de未wei來lai學xue校xiao的de改gai革ge,未wei來lai教jiao育yu最zui大da的de改gai革ge是shi發fa現xian,我wo非fei常chang同tong意yi好hao奇qi,獨du特te的de思si考kao,我wo們men去qu喚huan起qi人ren的de智zhi慧hui。其qi實shi像xiang我wo們men這zhe樣yang的de人ren,真zhen的de考kao試shi記ji不bu住zhu,王wang安an石shi變bian法fa是shi哪na年nian,高gao考kao就jiu考kao那na些xie東dong西xi,我wo以yi前qian數shu學xue還hai不bu錯cuo,後hou來lai數shu學xue考kao了le一yi分fen高gao考kao,當dang然ran我wo覺jiao得de數shu學xue後hou來lai考kao的de也ye不bu錯cuo。不bu同tong思si考kao模mo式shi的de人ren,假jia如ru我wo們men懂dong得de喚huan醒xing人ren的de智zhi慧hui,發fa現xian孩hai子zi的de強qiang項xiang,我wo覺jiao得de這zhe可ke能neng是shi我wo們men未wei來lai最zui大da的de挑tiao戰zhan,這zhe也ye是shi我wo們men今jin天tian在zai教jiao育yu上shang麵mian需xu要yao找zhao出chu來lai的de巨ju大da創chuang新xin。
第di二er個ge企qi業ye的de創chuang新xin,我wo分fen享xiang一yi下xia我wo的de看kan法fa,創chuang新xin在zai我wo理li解jie,就jiu是shi創chuang造zao新xin的de價jia值zhi,創chuang新xin不bu是shi因yin為wei你ni要yao打da敗bai對dui手shou而er創chuang新xin,不bu是shi為wei更geng大da的de名ming,而er是shi為wei了le社she會hui為wei了le客ke戶hu,為wei了le明ming天tian,創chuang新xin不bu是shi為wei對dui手shou競jing爭zheng,而er是shi跟gen明ming天tian競jing爭zheng。真zhen正zheng的de創chuang新xin一yi定ding是shi基ji於yu使shi命ming感gan,我wo自zi己ji在zai問wen自zi己ji這zhe個ge問wen題ti,這zhe麼me多duo年nian來lai越yue來lai越yue辛xin苦ku,越yue來lai越yue累lei。我wo特te別bie欣xin賞shang開kai複fu一yi個ge優you秀xiu的de東dong西xi,不bu是shi他ta做zuo了le很hen多duo企qi業ye,參can加jia了leGoogle,而是他懂得分享,把自己的經驗,把學到的東西跟別人分享。
我wo自zi己ji覺jiao得de我wo們men一yi定ding要yao問wen自zi己ji一yi個ge問wen題ti,我wo到dao底di為wei了le什shen麼me,其qi實shi有you時shi候hou很hen多duo論lun壇tan邀yao請qing我wo去qu演yan講jiang,我wo會hui拒ju絕jue很hen多duo,但dan有you時shi候hou還hai得de去qu,為wei什shen麼me?要yao想xiang清qing楚chu自zi己ji有you什shen麼me,要yao什shen麼me,要yao放fang棄qi什shen麼me。其qi實shi我wo們men一yi無wu所suo有you,也ye沒mei有you一yi個ge有you錢qian的de爸ba,也ye沒mei有you一yi個ge有you錢qian的de舅jiu舅jiu,我wo做zuo到dao現xian在zai感gan謝xie這zhe個ge時shi代dai,感gan謝xie很hen多duo的de朋peng友you,感gan恩en互hu聯lian網wang,感gan恩en所suo有you信xin任ren我wo的de朋peng友you,他ta們men的de信xin任ren讓rang我wo走zou到dao了le今jin天tian。我wo是shi僥jiao幸xing,但dan是shi有you多duo少shao可ke以yi像xiang淘tao寶bao像xiang阿e裏li巴ba巴ba,他ta們men能neng夠gou走zou過guo我wo們men一yi樣yang的de路lu,我wo今jin天tian說shuo十shi多duo年nian來lai,我wo做zuo阿e裏li巴ba巴ba從cong來lai沒mei改gai過guo的de使shi命ming,讓rang天tian下xia沒mei有you難nan做zuo的de生sheng意yi,讓rang小xiao企qi業ye成cheng長chang起qi來lai,成cheng為wei明ming天tian的de穀gu歌ge,明ming天tian的de百bai度du,明ming天tian的de阿e裏li巴ba巴ba。微wei博bo上shang說shuo了le,阿e裏li巴ba巴ba是shi投tou資zi負fu增zeng長chang,我wo們men掙zheng錢qian卻que沒mei遊you戲xi公gong司si多duo,但dan我wo們men掙zheng的de踏ta實shi。我wo沒mei騙pian過guo投tou資zi者zhe,我wo第di一yi天tian就jiu跟gen講jiang,我wo拿na的de錢qian今jin天tian影ying響xiang了le一yi個ge行xing業ye,我wo不bu敢gan說shuo我wo們men有you多duo大da的de貢gong獻xian,但dan中zhong國guo電dian子zi商shang務wu發fa展zhan到dao今jin天tian,阿e裏li人ren作zuo出chu的de貢gong獻xian很hen大da,我wo們men自zi己ji可ke能neng沒mei掙zheng很hen多duo錢qian,但dan是shi我wo們men創chuang建jian了le電dian子zi商shang務wu,我wo們men創chuang建jian了le誠cheng信xin體ti係xi,我wo們men創chuang建jian了le物wu流liu體ti係xi,明ming白bai自zi己ji有you什shen麼me,明ming白bai自zi己ji要yao什shen麼me,明ming白bai自zi己ji放fang棄qi什shen麼me。做zuo企qi業ye有you錢qian的de人ren千qian萬wan不bu要yao想xiang有you權quan,當dang政zheng府fu有you權quan的de人ren千qian萬wan不bu要yao想xiang自zi己ji有you錢qian,這zhe兩liang個ge東dong西xi就jiu像xiang火huo藥yao一yi樣yang,你ni死si的de時shi候hou都dou不bu知zhi道dao怎zen麼me死si的de。隻zhi有you明ming白bai自zi己ji要yao什shen麼me,走zou的de才cai會hui踏ta實shi。基ji於yu使shi命ming感gan的de創chuang新xin才cai是shi持chi久jiu的de,另ling外wai,我wo自zi己ji覺jiao得de企qi業ye內nei部bu的de創chuang新xin,創chuang新xin一yi定ding在zai企qi業ye外wai部bu。前qian一yi段duan時shi間jian美mei國guo一yi個ge學xue者zhe問wen我wo,你ni認ren為wei學xue校xiao應ying該gai怎zen麼me培pei養yang學xue生sheng?我wo認ren為wei學xue校xiao是shi最zui好hao的de學xue校xiao,學xue校xiao培pei育yu了le我wo們men。在zai我wo最zui困kun難nan的de時shi候hou,管guan理li混hun亂luan,不bu知zhi道dao怎zen麼me辦ban的de時shi候hou,我wo專zhuan門men去qu研yan究jiu了le一yi下xia,我wo們men公gong司si內nei部bu換huan一yi個ge經jing理li,所suo有you人ren都dou要yao辭ci職zhi,後hou來lai我wo們men改gai成cheng總zong監jian以yi上shang是shi集ji團tuan直zhi接jie管guan理li,越yue管guan越yue靠kao譜pu。我wo們men今jin天tian換huan一yi個ge總zong監jian,換huan一yi個ge副fu總zong裁cai很hen方fang便bian,這zhe樣yang的de機ji製zhi才cai能neng可ke持chi續xu發fa展zhan,所suo以yi創chuang新xin在zai公gong司si以yi外wai。
另外我講一下人才,我覺得我們需要的是平凡的人,我兒子18歲的時候寫了一封信,我說兒子18歲sui了le,我wo送song你ni三san句ju話hua,永yong遠yuan用yong自zi己ji的de腦nao袋dai思si考kao問wen題ti,獨du立li判pan斷duan,第di二er永yong遠yuan保bao持chi樂le觀guan的de心xin態tai,世shi界jie是shi有you很hen多duo問wen題ti,但dan解jie決jue問wen題ti的de辦ban法fa總zong比bi問wen題ti多duo,世shi界jie所suo有you的de問wen題ti,人ren類lei這zhe麼me多duo年nian都dou過guo來lai了le,為wei什shen麼me我wo們men就jiu過guo不bu去qu?第di三san個ge講jiang真zhen話hua,跟gen老lao爸ba講jiang真zhen話hua。今jin天tian員yuan工gong同tong事shi也ye一yi樣yang,我wo希xi望wang是shi樂le觀guan的de員yuan工gong,喜xi歡huan有you獨du立li思si考kao的de員yuan工gong,希xi望wang講jiang真zhen話hua的de員yuan工gong,我wo們men都dou是shi平ping凡fan的de人ren,這zhe三san個ge基ji本ben要yao求qiu誰shui都dou能neng做zuo到dao。我wo也ye希xi望wang我wo的de員yuan工gong,我wo的de公gong司si是shi個ge動dong物wu園yuan,而er不bu是shi農nong場chang,農nong場chang永yong遠yuan做zuo不bu出chu創chuang新xin,農nong場chang就jiu是shi一yi群qun雞ji一yi群qun鴨ya都dou一yi樣yang,服fu裝zhuang都dou統tong一yi的de,麻ma煩fan大da了le,我wo們men需xu要yao的de是shi各ge類lei動dong物wu,有you開kai心xin有you快kuai樂le,由you於yu是shi人ren才cai他ta一yi定ding有you點dian怪guai異yi,所suo以yi領ling導dao要yao包bao容rong。
第di三san個ge企qi業ye內nei部bu要yao有you創chuang新xin機ji製zhi,文wen化hua很hen重zhong要yao一yi點dian是shi舒shu服fu。我wo剛gang才cai一yi穿chuan西xi裝zhuang打da領ling帶dai我wo特te不bu舒shu服fu,我wo就jiu不bu會hui講jiang話hua了le。阿e裏li巴ba巴ba講jiang一yi個ge價jia值zhi觀guan,那na就jiu是shi做zuo自zi己ji的de原yuan則ze,在zai這zhe個ge原yuan則ze基ji礎chu上shang什shen麼me事shi情qing都dou可ke以yi談tan,在zai這zhe個ge原yuan則ze之zhi外wai什shen麼me事shi情qing都dou不bu能neng談tan。阿e裏li有you今jin天tian,我wo們men特te別bie強qiang調tiao文wen化hua。前qian段duan時shi間jian我wo們men阿e裏li巴ba巴baB2B的CEO衛wei哲zhe辭ci職zhi,是shi承cheng擔dan了le他ta應ying該gai承cheng擔dan的de責ze任ren,並bing沒mei有you網wang上shang傳chuan的de利li益yi分fen配pei,內nei部bu鬥dou爭zheng,哪na有you那na麼me複fu雜za,違wei背bei價jia值zhi體ti係xi,違wei背bei我wo們men的de原yuan則ze,誰shui都dou該gai承cheng擔dan責ze任ren,就jiu是shi那na麼me簡jian單dan。有you人ren說shuo馬ma雲yun你ni的de價jia值zhi觀guan連lian你ni的deCEO都不理解,這不是我的價值觀,這是“我們”的價值觀,誠信,這是人類共同擁有的價值觀,誰違背誰承擔責任。